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Gothic Subculture in Philippines. meron ba?

Gothic Subculture in Philippines. meron ba? how can you help this scene? discuss
Well, to be honest.... the Goth subculture here in Manila, to be exact, is a very small group.

But I must say the goth gatherings of yester-years was far more better as compared to today. This was the time when the old-school goth bands were still active such as Dominion, Five wounds to Enter, Prominence of Cathedrals, etc.. and the other bands who have been active in the underground Goth Community in the past.

Dati, maganda mag-attend ng mga gatherings kasi genuine ang mga tao. Not only do you get to learn more about the gothic subculture through the music but you also get to meet people who have a lot of sense to talk to. Kahit mag-isa ka lang mag attend ng gatherings, meron at meron ka makakausap ng matino. Gatherings before can be as simple as DJ Nights to extravagant cosplay balls.

I guess, presently, medyo namatay yung scene.. Sorry to say, marami na kasi nag invade na "spooky kids" as they would call em. - (kids who are there just for the sake of "porma" and to hook-up), which eventually kills the scene in the long run.

If you guys really want to learn about the Goth Subculture in the Philippines, here is a link to the group that started it all:
http://www.subkulture.net/indexmain.htm
Last update on April 11, 2010 4:52 am by RiDz.
yup there is.
lam nio ba ung subkulture? sa philippines ang original nun. khit mga foreigner pumupunta pa sa pilipinas pra lng mkapunta sa pinaka malaking group ng goths sa buong asia. gothic subculture? mdami yan dito sa phil. hindi lng halata kasi ndi sila ngp-promote msyado due to genre discrimination.(why do people thinks all goths are satanist?? they just don't become open-minded
Last update on October 26, 2010 5:52 am by administrator.
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It does exist. But just like the Anhura band said, it is a very small group. And the movement, who called themselves Subkulture began to promote the Goth scene up to this day by helding lavish parties like the Eternal Death Wake.
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Gothic subculture... yeah, as everybody says, it's indeed a small group here and goes unnoticed. that's why many people aren't familiar with it and sometimes, it's mistaken for...you know! ^;...;^
Last update on October 26, 2010 5:53 am by administrator.
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yeah agree aq ..
dhil sa liit ng group at rare mkakita ng gnun sa surface .. T_T
kaya pg nkakita sila, qng anu-ano na ang mga naiisip nilang panghuhusga ..
Last update on April 11, 2010 4:53 am by RiDz.
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Originally posted by: "KeeperOfTheGrave13
Gothic subculture... yeah, as everybody says, it's indeed a small group here and goes unnoticed. that's why many people aren't familiar with it and sometimes, it's mistaken for...you know! ^;...;^


actually mas ok nga yung ganun na small group lang.. at least you get to know who moves around that group, get to know each one on a more personal level. Get to talk to one another and at the same time make sense.... It's easy to identify the authentic ones from the trying-hard-to-be ...

I mean if you're really in it for the music ...and the art of it all... one wouldn't really mind if it is being mistaken as crazy or kookoo --- i guess it should not even matter at all.
Last update on October 26, 2010 5:54 am by administrator.
^ mga idol ko hahahahaha!! meron naman, maliit nga lang
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Pano lalaki ang goth scene kung ang small group na ito ay too elite to welcome newbies and kids alike? Sometimes you have to be mainstream for it to be called successful. As the scene grows, more poseurs and critics appear.
Last update on April 11, 2010 4:54 am by RiDz.
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Pano lalaki ang goth scene kung ang small group na ito ay too elite to welcome newbies and kids alike? Sometimes you have to be mainstream for it to be called successful. As the scene grows, more poseurs and critics appear. >



Hmm...there may be a pinch of truth in what you said above. True..this small group is somewhat elite, or lets put it in other terms.... "CHOOSY" .....and that this is the reason why kids and noobs find it hard to penetrate.

Kasi if you're not true enough, and not sincere enough to learn and be a part of them, if they sense that nandun ka lang para pumorma at mang-karir and not for the real camaraderie...if they sense that you are not respectable enough ...eh, mahihirapan ka talaga makisabay sa kanila. And that is why their elite status is being looked down on and being mistaken as a sign of not being open enough or welcoming. But in truth, this group welcomes noobs with open arms, just don't expect them to do all the moves, of course as a noob when you enter their circle you will have to exert a little effort to be true to yourself, and be humble enough to gain their respect.

I guess, in my own opinion, the small gothic subculture that exists here simply wants to preserve the "Authenticity of the appreciation of the Gothic artform" in terms of music, literature and the arts in general. The way I see it, they may be small ...but they are strong enough to ride the waves of time.

As you mentioned above, as a scene grows, more poseurs appear. -- but that is only if you grow TOO FAST.

^just my opinion on the matter.



Disclaimer: My thoughts and views do not necessarily reflect the views of Subkulture and its counterparts.
Last update on April 11, 2010 4:54 am by RiDz.
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As you mentioned above, as a scene grows, more poseurs appear. -- but that is only if you grow TOO FAST.


How fast? Gothic rock formed during late 1970s. Isn't it time to help this scene to make it to the next level? Some European/US countries like UK already have this support from popular media and crowd. Even the elite supported this diversity and growth while others decided to secure its identity and create underground gothic subculture or even recreate their own gothic image. So i think its better to have Mainstream Gothic scene as it will help or it will make some people to be in the Underground Gothic scene.

1. Mainstream -> 2. becoming Poseur /crab mentality -> 3. gothic mainstream kid pissed then joins underground scene -> 4. underground scene continues to grow then decided to create a new scene -> 5. back to step 1.
Last update on April 11, 2010 4:55 am by RiDz.
Poseurs are everywhere, in all walks of life, in all platforms, i even want to say that even in other dimensions there are, but i cant since ive never been to any other dimension YET, mentioning such would then make me one...thus, we dont have control over that because we are individuals, it's a matter of questioning ourselves "can we live with it?"...if we can, then great, if we cant, we dont have to kill ourselves and blow our brains out...thats when being a bit "crazy" comes in, like we can go on living in our own "world", but making sure that we dont step on other people's existence though... Subkulture, if im right, is not restricting people to come and learn, theyre encouraging people to go and see that such exist, thats why most of the events are free...those people that feel alienated are mostly the new ones that claim they know tons about the scene...acquiring knowledge cant be done over night, its a continous process...we got to learn to listen first and be humble...this goes to all subcultures, not only to the goth subculture... we all need to be a little bit crazy sometimes, its a good practice, just dont try to over do it because i will be jealous if you do hehe...ps, im in a straight jacket while doing this, im using ESP... :rockon2:
wow serious discussion ata??

yeah there is,,

but it was not as big and fame like in the european country,,

jeez,, sna nga we can elaborate the goth society,, then expose it,,
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Last update on March 24, 2010 1:27 pm by femme du monde.
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Originally posted by: ANHURA

Well, to be honest.... the Goth subculture here in Manila, to be exact, is a very small group.

But I must say the goth gatherings of yester-years was far more better as compared to today. This was the time when the old-school goth bands were still active such as Dominion, Five wounds to Enter, Prominence of Cathedrals, etc.. and the other bands who have been active in the underground Goth Community in the past.

Dati, maganda mag-attend ng mga gatherings kasi genuine ang mga tao. Not only do you get to learn more about the gothic subculture through the music but you also get to meet people who have a lot of sense to talk to. Kahit mag-isa ka lang mag attend ng gatherings, meron at meron ka makakausap ng matino. Gatherings before can be as simple as DJ Nights to extravagant cosplay balls.

I guess, presently, medyo namatay yung scene.. Sorry to say, marami na kasi nag invade na "spooky kids" as they would call em. - (kids who are there just for the sake of "porma" and to hook-up), which eventually kills the scene in the long run.

If you guys really want to learn about the Goth Subculture in the Philippines, here is a link to the group that started it all:
http://www.subkulture.net/indexmain.htm



I agree that Goth subculture in Manila or any part of Phil comes in a very small group. A lot of people try to be/dress to be one but only few meant what it really means.


"How fast? Gothic rock formed during late 1970s. Isn't it time to help this scene to make it to the next level? Some European/US countries like UK already have this support from popular media and crowd. Even the elite supported this diversity and growth while others decided to secure its identity and create underground gothic subculture or even recreate their own gothic image. So i think its better to have Mainstream Gothic scene as it will help or it will make some people to be in the Underground Gothic scene."

It has been introduced, goth bands here tried to take it on the next level, but people are not just into that specially in phil. Only few appreciates it but still they play no matter what. The gothic subculture will embrace changes but not to the extreme that people are just joining them because they look weird or they dress classy; it rather stays ELITE as what people consider saying than having bunch of people who don't understand and truly appreciate the group for.


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btw ANHURA, is libby still in your band?


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ya meron talga sa philippines . . small group lang talaga. . heehehe.


sa mga location sa philippines i think manila ang marami, , .unti lang kasi sa baguio. .


wala namang contact . . minsan lang magkita. .

at ang minsan. . di nila maget na iba ang gothic sa emo. . ahahahaha. , .
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ulul! kung yan naman pla ang tingin mo, bat ka nandito?
dahil sa mga eksenang ganito namamatay ang mga sub cultures, dahil kung sino sino nalang ang mga pumapasok! wag ka nang magulat kung umieksena ka ng rakista!
at nag bigay ka pa ng link! para ano? masabing may alam ka?
di mo ba alam na dahil jan e malalaman lang nila at maeexploit ang culture!



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"Our essence is the storm rain drops in the ocean of mankind, the winds that blow on their faces and the quakes that shake the very foundations of their ground."


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I think meron namang mga Gothic at heart. kaso sad to say, pag naka porma kang kahit medyo gothic lang I-babash kana agad ng mga tao sa paligid mo. kesho "emo" raw "weird" "exagg" etc. pero ang importante masaya ka sino ka hayaan mo silang tumitig ng parang ngayon lang nakakita ng tao. icon_mrgreen
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